An Infinite Amount of Money – Et Tu, Italy?

March 7, 2013 08:06

Too many in power just don’t see the impending crisis that you and I see, or at least they don’t see the need to act now.


By John Mauldin


This week we will look at the mindset that ignores warning signs, and reflect on a hard-to-believe comment from Mayor Bloomberg of New York. It is a teaching moment that does not bode well for my hopeful outcome in the US. Meanwhile in Europe, the risks have been heightened with the recent vote in Italy. We must remember that Italy is the world’s third-largest issuer of bonds – its problems matter on the world stage. While it may all be molto divertente for those of us sitting on the sidelines, the potential consequences are anything but amusing.


An Infinite Amount of Money

I am often asked, “How can anyone not see the problems of growing debt in the US? Why can’t we get a consensus to change?”

Part of the problem is that too many in power just don’t see the impending crisis that you and I see, or at least they don’t see the need to act now. That is changing – or so I thought until I read a most inexplicable statement by the billionaire entrepreneur mayor of NYC, Michael Bloomberg. This is the sort of thing that causes me to despair. Here we have a supposedly (well, relatively) fiscally conservative politician, someone who is no stranger to financial circles, giving us these off-the-cuff remarks last week, commenting on whether sequestration will affect the NYC budget:

“It depends on how long,” Mr. Bloomberg said on his weekly WOR radio show with John Gambling. “If it lasts a few weeks, no. If it [lasts longer], yeah. We get 10 or 12 percent of our budget from the federal government, not all of that is going to be cut back, but there would be effects – not good effects. But in the context of, ‘Is anything going to change tomorrow? Are we going to run out of money tomorrow?’ I’m sure I’ll get that question at the [next] press conference. No.”

Furthermore, while saying the federal deficit does indeed need to be curtailed, Mr. Bloomberg argued the United States could owe “an infinite amount of money and there is no specific amount that would cause the country to default.

“We are spending money we don’t have,” Mr. Bloomberg explained. “It’s not like your household. In your household, people are saying, ‘Oh, you can’t spend money you don’t have.’ That is true for your household because nobody is going to lend you an infinite amount of money. When it comes to the United States federal government, people do seem willing to lend us an infinite amount of money.… Our debt is so big and so many people own it that it’s preposterous to think that they would stop selling us more. It’s the old story: If you owe the bank $50,000, you got a problem. If you owe the bank $50 million, they got a problem. And that’s a problem for the lenders. They can’t stop lending us more money.” (

I am not sure what his understanding of the word infinite is, but I am pretty sure he is not using the word to mean “limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate.” In the few times I have met him, he has seemed quite reasonable and in command of the English language. I think he was speaking in a metaphorical sense, as in, there is (to his mind) no practical limit. I certainly hope he was.

I am reminded of former Vice President Dick Cheney’s comment that “deficits don’t matter.” He is right, if the deficit never grows past the rate of the growth of the country (nominal GDP). It might not be wise to approach that limit, but it would not necessarily be a disaster. And, to be charitable to Cheney, I’m sure it never occurred to him that the US could run a deficit close to 10% of GDP. Such a notion would have been preposterous to him. Unthinkable. The US government would pull back from anything even close to that. And that remained true – until it happened and we didn’t pull back.

And that is the problem. Too many of our leaders do not yet think we have approached the limit – hey, we’re not to infinite yet! The political and economic repercussions of restraining ourselves are just too difficult for some of us to resist pushing the limits a little further. Too many in the current administration appear to truly believe that even minor spending cuts (and I mean just cuts to the increase in spending, not actual cuts!) will bring about calamity.

Spending cuts will indeed reduce potential GDP in the short run. And for most politicians, the short run is the world they live in. But at some point, the short run gets longer, and as infinity approaches the bond markets get very antsy.

Greece protested against the austerity imposed on it. But what choice did it have? If it did not cut its budget, the rest of Europe would not fund the new debt the country needed. It is not a God-given right for Greeks to expect Germans (and the rest of Europe) to fund their lifestyle. So the bond markets simply stopped funding Greek debt. Unless the Greeks had agreed to austerity (known in some circles known as “reality”), the budget cuts would have been far larger, as Greece cannot print its own currency. The rest of Europe gave Greece money to avoid the potential debacle of a disorderly exit from the euro, but they did extract a price. The object of the process was to get Greece back to a place where it could fund itself with a smaller government budget. (More on that subject later.)

Austerity is not fun. Ask any teenager whose parents have set limits where previously there have been few or none. Tantrums ensue. It is kind of like the five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Except that when you are talking about seriously over-indebted governments, the depression (pardon the pun) can last a lot longer than any other stage.

Bloomberg and those who think like him project our current experience into the far future. “Look at interest rates,” they say; “they are telling us the markets are just fine with the levels of US debt and the deficit.” And they are right; there are no bond-market issues now. But those of us with an eye on history know that is not unusual. Bond markets are typically sanguine right up until the BANG! moment. Then they are not. Bloomberg is right to say that there is no specific amount of debt that would cause the markets to cease funding us. Would that there were some convenient, unmistakable line we could see as we approached it. But the experience of over 250 debt crises over the past few hundred years tells us that there is no specific point when the markets lose confidence in a government’s debt. When it happens, though, it is ferocious in its intensity.

That is why I and others are so deeply worried about Japan. The level of denial is majestic. The newly nominated governor of the Bank of Japan, Haruhiko Kuroda, has openly espoused the printing of money and monetization of debt. And Kikuo Iwata, one of the government’s nominees for central bank deputy governor, said the Bank of Japan should buy longer-term bonds to help it achieve a two-percent inflation target.

They both suggest that the monetization planned for 2014 under the old regime could be accelerated into the present. As if to reinforce the perception that Japan can borrow an infinite amount of money, the yield on Japan’s ten-year bond has fallen to 0.585%, the lowest in a decade. If the bond market is so compliant in the face of imminent massive monetization, what could possibly go wrong? The amount of debt Japan has amassed has now topped one quadrillion yen. Not trillion with a “T” but quadrillion with a “Q,” which coincidentally also begins the word “questionable.” You can see for yourself how confident bond buyers are, in this chart:


Japanese Ten-Year Bond Rates: Down 2/3 in 4 Years


Infinite means “without limit.” If Japan can borrow such sums at a 240% debt-to-GDP ratio, the thinking surely goes, the US can borrow a few trillion more – or perhaps even an infinite number of trillions. And we have such a long way to go before we even get to a quadrillion!

I warned in Endgame two years ago that the markets could lose patience in 2014 if they do not see a serious attempt to curtail the US deficit. The recent gold standard for a bearish mindset, my friend Nouriel Roubini told me he thinks I am being too pessimistic – we can probably get through to 2015.

If we do indeed see some movement toward deficit reduction, then our date with destiny can be postponed for quite some time. If over time we can bring the deficit back to below nominal GDP, a true debt crisis can be averted. If pressed, I am sure Mayor Bloomberg would now express regret at using the words infinite and debt in the same sentence. I doubt he actually believes what he said; rather (I generously assume), he was trying to make the point that the current sequestration will not bring on a debt crisis.

Until we get enough leaders to press the point, leaders like Simpson and Bowles, et al., we will dig an ever-deeper hole for our children; and if we don’t stop digging pretty soon, we will find ourselves in that hole. Past performance is not indicative of future results: it is not preposterous to think there might be limits.

Et Tu, Italy?

Only last year I was a mild-mannered euro skeptic. My default position was that the eurozone would break up, at least partially, due to economic strains and the unwillingness of nations like Germany to write checks and endure outright monetization. If Germany et al. relented, then I would have to change my position.

Germany has clearly gone along with monetization (while protesting all along the way). I now assume that the eurozone will somehow stay together unless and until we see a political event that creates an exit crisis for some country. The will of European leaders to keep the euro experiment alive at all costs is impressive. Now, the cost of a breakup is almost unfathomable. A breakup is not impossible, but oh dear gods, what a cost. It is now probably cheaper just to continue to bump along, forcing austerity where one can. That is certainly the default political position in most of Europe.

For now, “austerity” is a bad word. It has been openly forsaken in France and Spain. There are massive demonstrations in Portugal. Greece has gone about as far as it can politically for the time being. The Dutch government finally conceded on Thursday that it would not meet the budget-deficit target set by the European Union this year, due to its weak economy and a reluctance to make more cutbacks.

I see two threats to the euro. The first is France. Its budget deficit and economy are getting worse, and so far all French attempts to maintain the EU deficit target have been cosmetic, much to the frustration of Germany, which has brought its deficit down to 1%. However, Merkel does not want a crisis before her elections in September, so she is giving a pass to France and Italy. But that is a topic for another letter.

The second threat is the possibility of a political crisis in a country where an anti-euro government takes actual control. Right now that seems unlikely to happen, but the recent election in Italy has given European elites a case of indigestion.

Some German leaders (pointedly not Merkel) spoke openly and derisively of the success of those they called the Italian “clowns,” speaking of aging comedian Beppe Grillo and his Five Star Movement and the even more aged (76) conservative leader, playboy, and billionaire Silvio Berlusconi, he of “bunga bunga” notoriety, who has refused to go away, to the consternation of much of the rest of Europe.

Italian politics are always difficult to fathom, even for Italians. When I am on vacation there and ask the locals questions about what is likely to happen, I am met with confused shrugs (at least in Tuscany). I don’t get the passionate lectures I heard in Greece or Spain.

The center-left coalition “won” the lower house with 29.6% of the vote. Berlusconi’s coalition won slightly less, at 29.2%. Under the Italian Constitution, which makes the US electoral college scheme appear sane, the party with the most votes gets an automatic 55% of the lower house. So with less than 30% of the vote and a win of just 0.4%, the center-left now controls 55% of the votes in parliament. But the Senate, which has equal power, is not apportioned the same way, and there Berlusconi won control. Unless some grand coalition can be finessed, there is no government that can be formed. Anatole Kaletsky writes at GaveKal:

This is not to say the situation is not pretty messy! The big winner of the Italian election is obviously the protest vote, as illustrated by a 5% rise in abstention, and, much more importantly, a super strong 25% score for Beppe Grillo’s Five Star Movement, a new party founded by geeks and bloggers with an anti-everything discourse (anti-Monti, anti-Berlusconi, anti-euro, anti-establishment, anti-debt repayment, anti-markets, etc.). Ex-comedian Grillo (who is not himself a candidate) has succeeded in gathering protest votes that were usually spread between the extreme-right and the extreme-left.

While the center-left party of Pier Luigi Bersani took 29.6% of the vote (with more than 99.9% of ballots counted) in the lower house, a touch more than Silvio Berlusconi’s 29.2%, Italians have sent a clear message of protest against fiscal austerity, and against tax hikes in particular. Mario Monti’s new party got just 9% of the vote in the lower house, and Berlusconi and Grillo’s combined vote is roughly 55%.

These split votes mean the emergence of a new government in the eurozone’s third largest economy is going to be extraordinarily problematic. Moreover, new elections cannot be called before late May at the earliest, since the president of the Republic (elected for seven years in May 2006) does not have the right to dissolve during the last six months of his mandate. In any case, new elections may not be what the establishment would want (Berlusconi included) since it would fear an even higher score by Grillo.

One possibility is a Bersani/Berlusconi grand coalition. This seems crazy, but after all the two parties “governed” together in 2012, since they were the two main supports to Monti’s technocrat government – until Berlusconi’s party withdrew its backing in a well-calculated move to campaign on an anti-austerity theme in the elections. Another possibility is a coalition between Bersani and Grillo’s Five-Star Movements – bizarre, but who knows with Italy? Whatever the solution, nothing will come easily – and there is the risk that a new market crisis might be a pre-condition for a coalition to be formed.

Anatole’s lifelong friend and partner, Charles Gave, sees the Italian elections much differently. He points out that a majority of voters selected parties openly anti-euro as well as anti-austerity. And I agree with him: that is the apparent outcome. However, when you look at polls, the 25% that Grillo won was clearly a youth protest vote. The vast majority of the Five Star Movement’s voters were under 50 and many under 30. The message was one of protest against the corruption of the current system as well as frustration with the technocrat government (which Berlusconi initially supported, before his polls numbers rose and he decided to stand in an election that he came within a hair of winning). The current prime minister, Mario Monti, got just 9% of the vote – a resounding rejection.

Grillo is an odd character. He refuses to talk to journalists. Italian reporters who have telephoned him and asked to speak to the general secretary of the party claim he has told them, “Hang on, I’ll just pass you to my 12-year-old son.” He said Italy was in such dire economic straits that “In six months, we will no longer be able to pay pensions and the wages of public employees.” He has called for a total repudiation of Italian debt (otherwise known as default).

In an interview with a German magazine, Grillo warned that “if conditions do not change” Italy “will want” to leave the euro and return to the lira. I refer those who are interested in the lurid details to a story in the Telegraph.

Like the Greek Syriza Party, which had to back off its earlier positions with regard to leaving the euro, Grillo may find that he cannot hold his coalition together if the real possibility of his governing ever materializes. He has refused to entertain being part of any coalition government, calling the center-left winner Bersani a “dead man talking.” Not exactly the stuff of which coalitions are formed. One young lady responded by starting an online petition to demand that Grillo not “waste” her vote, and work with Bersani to form a coalition government. In just a few days, she has already had 150,000 5SM voters sign her petition. Waiting six months for another election without a government would not exactly make for inspiring theater, and while no one likes the current government, the voters apparently like chaos even less.

If a grand coalition cannot be formed, it appears another election will be held this summer. And while the concern in Europe is that Grillo might even get more votes, it is also possible that his intransigence and unwillingness to capitalize on his surprise upset will cost him voters.

Throughout Europe, where austerity has been the order of the day there have been protest votes. But will the anti-euro forces actually be able to muster a firm majority? Not so long as Merkel allows relaxation of the Fiscal Compact, as she apparently has. The impetus for protest will wane and find another focus besides withdrawal from the euro.

But we need to keep an eye on these nationalist movements and an even closer watch on France. President Hollande has slumped in the polls to a 30% approval rating just ten months after his election, making him the most unpopular president in 30 years. He seems to feel that France can borrow an infinite quantity of euros. It will be a race between Hollande and Japanese Prime Minister Abe to see who can lose the confidence of the bond market faster. From my perspective, they are both running hell-bent for leather.


John Mauldin

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